# Dead-end in reverse? Why? **URL:** \ **Category:** Software Issues\ **Tags:** lawn-mower\ **Created:** [May 12, 2025, 2:10am UTC](https://forum.yarbo.com/t/dead-end-in-reverse-why/1678 "2025-05-12T02:10:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![jeremyj114](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex007/user_avatar/forum.yarbo.com/jeremyj114/32/550_2.png) [@jeremyj114](https://forum.yarbo.com/u/jeremyj114)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2025, 2:10am UTC](https://forum.yarbo.com/t/dead-end-in-reverse-why/1678/1 "2025-05-12T02:10:44Z")
Can someone explain the use case for allowing dead-ends to be run in reverse? Is this a bug? Feature? Multiple deadends have to be so strategically created to ensure Yarbo doesn’t back its way down the dead-end path. Honestly, sometimes I want to pull my hair out, the software on this product is so frustrating. I’m confident I spend 2x the time babysitting, remapping, etc, than just cutting the damn grass. Maddening. ---
**Author:** ![Ken](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex007/user_avatar/forum.yarbo.com/ken/32/1001_2.png) [@Ken](https://forum.yarbo.com/u/Ken)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2025, 2:22am UTC](https://forum.yarbo.com/t/dead-end-in-reverse-why/1678/2 "2025-05-12T02:22:51Z")
I asked about this on May 4 on FB. I haven’t seen it since, and I admit I haven’t been trying to figure out why it happens, as I just want this thing to mow so I can knock off other projects. > **[Official Yarbo Community | Facebook](https://www.facebook.com/groups/1714379818996666/search/?q=deadend)** > > Welcome to the Official Yarbo Community! > > Formerly known as the 'Yarbo Pre-Order Exclusive Club', we’ve renamed the group to bring all Yarbo users... ---
**Author:** ![bryan.wheeler](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex007/user_avatar/forum.yarbo.com/bryan.wheeler/32/215_2.png) [@bryan.wheeler](https://forum.yarbo.com/u/bryan.wheeler)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2025, 3:02am UTC](https://forum.yarbo.com/t/dead-end-in-reverse-why/1678/3 "2025-05-12T03:02:18Z")
Another FB user reached out to me today with the same issue. He was going to redo them. Curious if that fixes it for him. I suspect this is a bug. ---
**Author:** ![steve](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex007/user_avatar/forum.yarbo.com/steve/32/816_2.png) [@steve](https://forum.yarbo.com/u/steve)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2025, 4:46am UTC](https://forum.yarbo.com/t/dead-end-in-reverse-why/1678/4 "2025-05-12T04:46:25Z")
This happened to me the other day. I’d drawn the DE with one end starting in an area, and it worked normally. I edited / trimmed the area such that the DE was no longer in it. I added back to that area such that the DE was again, back within it. From there on, Yarbo backs into the DE and drives out, forward. ---
**Author:** ![Yarbo-Forum](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex007/user_avatar/forum.yarbo.com/yarbo-forum/32/126_2.png) [@Yarbo-Forum](https://forum.yarbo.com/u/Yarbo-Forum)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2025, 5:46am UTC](https://forum.yarbo.com/t/dead-end-in-reverse-why/1678/6 "2025-05-12T05:46:22Z")
Hi there, Thank you for your feedback. We’re aware of the issue you’ve mentioned. At present, if the rover detects that its **rear is already facing the direction of a deadend** , it will proceed into the dead-end **in reverse** , without turning around. This behavior is designed to reduce unnecessary turning and help minimize wear on the grass. That said, we’re actively evaluating whether the algorithm behind this behavior needs to be adjusted to better handle different scenarios. We’re sorry for the inconvenience this has caused, and we truly appreciate your patience. Please know that we’re continuously working to improve the software and provide a smoother user experience. ---
**Author:** ![Ken](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex007/user_avatar/forum.yarbo.com/ken/32/1001_2.png) [@Ken](https://forum.yarbo.com/u/Ken)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2025, 11:58am UTC](https://forum.yarbo.com/t/dead-end-in-reverse-why/1678/7 "2025-05-12T11:58:52Z")
Yes, @Yarbo-Forum, thank you for looking for ways to reduce wear on the grass!!! My concern with the “I’ll back in because my butt is there already” algorithm is that the mowing won’t reach as far, so it’ll leave a rover’s length of grass at the end instead of the few inches the mower would leave. ---
**Author:** ![bryan.wheeler](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex007/user_avatar/forum.yarbo.com/bryan.wheeler/32/215_2.png) [@bryan.wheeler](https://forum.yarbo.com/u/bryan.wheeler)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2025, 12:05pm UTC](https://forum.yarbo.com/t/dead-end-in-reverse-why/1678/8 "2025-05-12T12:05:30Z")
This definitely seems like a design flaw because yes, the core is not the mower and can’t cut grass. And, if it knows this and extends down to the M1, then it’s exceeding the Dead End boundary that was mapped. This is a problem if it is. ---
**Author:** ![Ken](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex007/user_avatar/forum.yarbo.com/ken/32/1001_2.png) [@Ken](https://forum.yarbo.com/u/Ken)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2025, 12:15pm UTC](https://forum.yarbo.com/t/dead-end-in-reverse-why/1678/10 "2025-05-12T12:15:55Z")
THANKFULLY the rover’s butt stops where the mower’s front end would, else it’d be breaking out over a border and teabagging some hostas. ---
**Author:** ![JayWozz](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex007/user_avatar/forum.yarbo.com/jaywozz/32/214_2.png) [@JayWozz](https://forum.yarbo.com/u/JayWozz)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2025, 1:19pm UTC](https://forum.yarbo.com/t/dead-end-in-reverse-why/1678/11 "2025-05-12T13:19:11Z")
Not to mention, there is no bumper or vision on the back, so it is way riskier to back in first. This should definitely be considered a bug, or it should be a user setting that allows the user to choose (at their own risk).