# Manual pathing (i.e. deadend without reverse) **URL:** \ **Category:** Suggestion and Feature Requests\ **Tags:** yarbo-app, mapping, currently-under-review\ **Created:** [April 5, 2025, 6:33pm UTC](https://forum.yarbo.com/t/manual-pathing-i-e-deadend-without-reverse/871 "2025-04-05T18:33:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![steve.billing](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex007/user_avatar/forum.yarbo.com/steve.billing/32/371_2.png) [@steve.billing](https://forum.yarbo.com/u/steve.billing)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2025, 6:33pm UTC](https://forum.yarbo.com/t/manual-pathing-i-e-deadend-without-reverse/871/1 "2025-04-05T18:33:17Z")
I would like to request a pathing mode similar to “deadend” but without the step of reversing back through the entire path. This would allow users to create custom paths for narrow areas where the area tool path algorithm is ineffective and reversing is not required. Additionally, it could also be used to generate towing routes where a specific path is desired and reversing Yarbo could cause jackknifing or impacts with the trailer. I am hoping this is a simple add - just a deadend path without the reversing step. ---
**Author:** ![Ken](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex007/user_avatar/forum.yarbo.com/ken/32/1001_2.png) [@Ken](https://forum.yarbo.com/u/Ken)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2025, 7:00pm UTC](https://forum.yarbo.com/t/manual-pathing-i-e-deadend-without-reverse/871/2 "2025-04-05T19:00:44Z")
Snowblower has these, called Sidewalks. A mower’s Deadend is identical to a snowblower’s zero-turn Sidewalk. Sidewalks by default have the rover go in and turn around and come back, but they added no-turns like the Deadend very recently. I have snowblower Sidewalks that act like Pathways and go end-to-end, which you would like to see. I also believe that Sidewalks should be available for all modules, and I’ve shared this with the Yarbo folks – some of whom agree. Sidewalks should just replace Pathways, we don’t really need both, IMO. Soooo…yep, count me in. ---
**Author:** ![bryan.wheeler](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex007/user_avatar/forum.yarbo.com/bryan.wheeler/32/215_2.png) [@bryan.wheeler](https://forum.yarbo.com/u/bryan.wheeler)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2025, 7:22pm UTC](https://forum.yarbo.com/t/manual-pathing-i-e-deadend-without-reverse/871/3 "2025-04-05T19:22:43Z")
I agree, it would be nice to have a no turn pathway/dead end. Perhaps it’s just a toggle in the current dead end: No backing, exit at the end. ---
**Author:** ![steve.billing](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex007/user_avatar/forum.yarbo.com/steve.billing/32/371_2.png) [@steve.billing](https://forum.yarbo.com/u/steve.billing)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2025, 5:05pm UTC](https://forum.yarbo.com/t/manual-pathing-i-e-deadend-without-reverse/871/4 "2025-04-06T17:05:34Z")
Agreed; a toggle to prevent backing out would be a direct solution. ---
**Author:** ![Yarbo-Forum](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex007/user_avatar/forum.yarbo.com/yarbo-forum/32/126_2.png) [@Yarbo-Forum](https://forum.yarbo.com/u/Yarbo-Forum)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2025, 8:53am UTC](https://forum.yarbo.com/t/manual-pathing-i-e-deadend-without-reverse/871/5 "2025-04-07T08:53:52Z")
Thank you for your input! We will pass your suggestion to the relevant department for consideration. However, I’d like to clarify a few details. When you mention adding the ability for a “deadend path without the reversing step,” what would you expect the lawn mower to do after completing the task on the “deadend path”? We’d appreciate any additional details to help us better understand your request. Thank you! ---
**Author:** ![steve.billing](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex007/user_avatar/forum.yarbo.com/steve.billing/32/371_2.png) [@steve.billing](https://forum.yarbo.com/u/steve.billing)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2025, 5:09pm UTC](https://forum.yarbo.com/t/manual-pathing-i-e-deadend-without-reverse/871/6 "2025-04-07T17:09:40Z")
Thanks for the quick reply - A selection to either stop in place without further action (similar to a waypoint / tow mode?) or continue to the next action strikes me as most functional. For instance, when the when a deadend activity completes now, the Yarbo will either continue with the next assignment or return to the charger. The manual pathing would function in exactly the same manner, but allow for one-direction of travel and allow for an end point different from the starting point. The expectation being that the user will end the the current activity in a place where Yarbo is able to find a path out for the next activity. An example use case would be to mow grass around other landscaping. In my situation, I have narrow strips of grass adjacent to bushes and trees where I can manually pilot the Yarbo through, but no combination of no-go zones and areas will allow for threading-of-the-needle between obstacles. If I draw a path using deadend mode, the Yarbo makes a beeline through the obstacles perfectly on the way in, but often gets hung up on the way out. In this case, the simplest solution would be for me to manually draw the path, not reverse out, and have an end point that differs from the start point. ---
**Author:** ![PreZ](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex007/user_avatar/forum.yarbo.com/prez/32/299_2.png) [@PreZ](https://forum.yarbo.com/u/PreZ)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2025, 9:57pm UTC](https://forum.yarbo.com/t/manual-pathing-i-e-deadend-without-reverse/871/7 "2025-04-07T21:57:25Z")
I also have a narrow strip in front of my plants between the plants and my front path that this would be useful for. It’s basically 1 Yarbo wide (that’s a standard measurement on here, right?). So I can’t make an ‘area’ of it. Additionally, it would be nice if I could create such an area in a free standing way - so I can make a pathway to it. The end goal being that it drives over my pathway with the blades OFF, then goes into this narrow strip and mows it, then exits at the other end (via. a pathway again?) to go on it’s way. Or turns around and gets out the way it came. Essentially what I’m asking for is the ability to make a mowable area that is only as wide as the yarbo itself I can make pathways to/from. ---
**Author:** ![bryan.wheeler](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex007/user_avatar/forum.yarbo.com/bryan.wheeler/32/215_2.png) [@bryan.wheeler](https://forum.yarbo.com/u/bryan.wheeler)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2025, 12:10am UTC](https://forum.yarbo.com/t/manual-pathing-i-e-deadend-without-reverse/871/8 "2025-04-08T00:10:26Z")
> [@PreZ](#): > > arrow strip in front of my plants between the plants and my front path that this would be useful for. It’s basically 1 Yarbo wide (that’s a standard measurement on here, right?). So I can’t make an ‘area’ of it. A dead end and or a pathway I think could accomplish this for you. Pathway assuming you connect it between two areas. Dead ends can be open ended. ---
**Author:** ![PreZ](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex007/user_avatar/forum.yarbo.com/prez/32/299_2.png) [@PreZ](https://forum.yarbo.com/u/PreZ)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2025, 2:33am UTC](https://forum.yarbo.com/t/manual-pathing-i-e-deadend-without-reverse/871/9 "2025-04-08T02:33:27Z")
But I can’t make a floating dead end. And pathways require two ends. So I can’t create a dead end where there is actual grass, then a pathway between the main yard and that dead end, so that the blade is turned off (and raised) while traversing the path between the main yard and the narrow strip of grass in front of my garden (ie. going over my front pathway). ---
**Author:** ![bryan.wheeler](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex007/user_avatar/forum.yarbo.com/bryan.wheeler/32/215_2.png) [@bryan.wheeler](https://forum.yarbo.com/u/bryan.wheeler)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2025, 2:38am UTC](https://forum.yarbo.com/t/manual-pathing-i-e-deadend-without-reverse/871/10 "2025-04-08T02:38:15Z")
Ah ok, I understand the issue now. Yeah, currently cannot do that. At least not that I am aware of. ---
**Author:** ![Yarbo-Forum](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex007/user_avatar/forum.yarbo.com/yarbo-forum/32/126_2.png) [@Yarbo-Forum](https://forum.yarbo.com/u/Yarbo-Forum)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2025, 5:53am UTC](https://forum.yarbo.com/t/manual-pathing-i-e-deadend-without-reverse/871/11 "2025-04-08T05:53:05Z")
Thank you for the detailed explanation! We now fully understand your needs and have passed this information along to the relevant department for further consideration. We appreciate your input and will keep you updated on any developments. ---
**Author:** ![steve.billing](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex007/user_avatar/forum.yarbo.com/steve.billing/32/371_2.png) [@steve.billing](https://forum.yarbo.com/u/steve.billing)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2025, 1:43pm UTC](https://forum.yarbo.com/t/manual-pathing-i-e-deadend-without-reverse/871/12 "2025-04-18T13:43:40Z")
Based on the table of new features post, it doesn’t appear that the purpose of this function request was understood. I am not asking to duplicate a deadend function, I am requesting a manual pathing mode. That is, I draw a path with the yarbo and it repeats that path. There are many circumstances where the Yarbo can physically fit through tight spaces, but the area algorithm is incapable of figuring it out or is ineffective and will destroy the lawn with an excessive number of turns. Give us the ability to manually plot a path to mow without the yarbo going all the way back through the path backwards. ---
**Author:** ![Yarbo-Forum](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex007/user_avatar/forum.yarbo.com/yarbo-forum/32/126_2.png) [@Yarbo-Forum](https://forum.yarbo.com/u/Yarbo-Forum)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2025, 2:48am UTC](https://forum.yarbo.com/t/manual-pathing-i-e-deadend-without-reverse/871/13 "2025-04-21T02:48:18Z")
Thank you for the clarification, and I’m sorry for the earlier misunderstanding. I’ve passed your suggestion to our product team again. The status of your feature request is expected to be updated this Wednesday. We really appreciate your detailed input—thanks again! ---
**Author:** ![AlexGlanville](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex007/user_avatar/forum.yarbo.com/alexglanville/32/218_2.png) [@AlexGlanville](https://forum.yarbo.com/u/AlexGlanville)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2025, 11:12pm UTC](https://forum.yarbo.com/t/manual-pathing-i-e-deadend-without-reverse/871/14 "2025-05-10T23:12:00Z")
Adding my request for this as well. Any updates on if this was approved or not? ---
**Author:** ![bryan.wheeler](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex007/user_avatar/forum.yarbo.com/bryan.wheeler/32/215_2.png) [@bryan.wheeler](https://forum.yarbo.com/u/bryan.wheeler)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2025, 11:27pm UTC](https://forum.yarbo.com/t/manual-pathing-i-e-deadend-without-reverse/871/15 "2025-05-10T23:27:34Z")
It was unaccepted. Bottom post. > [@Feature Requests: Progress Report and Community Engagement](https://forum.yarbo.com/t/feature-requests-progress-report-and-community-engagement/1147): > > Hello everyone, Since the launch of our forum, we’ve received a wealth of valuable feedback in the “Suggestions and Feature Requests” category. We truly appreciate your ongoing support, and we want to assure you that your input has been shared with the relevant departments for further consideration. We understand that you may be eager to know the status of some of these feature requests, and we’re committed to keeping you informed. To ensure transparency, we’ve decided to share the progress of… ---
**Author:** ![AlexGlanville](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex007/user_avatar/forum.yarbo.com/alexglanville/32/218_2.png) [@AlexGlanville](https://forum.yarbo.com/u/AlexGlanville)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2025, 7:30pm UTC](https://forum.yarbo.com/t/manual-pathing-i-e-deadend-without-reverse/871/16 "2025-05-26T19:30:00Z")
I feel like that misses the point. > (The purpose for a deadend is to let it reverse without making turning） I don’t think the request was to change the deadends behavior, but to add another option. Sort of like a pathway but let us select pathways in the mowing order. The feature is already there as a sidewalk for the S1; just bring it over the M1. ---
**Author:** ![steve](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex007/user_avatar/forum.yarbo.com/steve/32/816_2.png) [@steve](https://forum.yarbo.com/u/steve)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2025, 12:54am UTC](https://forum.yarbo.com/t/manual-pathing-i-e-deadend-without-reverse/871/17 "2025-05-27T00:54:03Z")
I’ve not tried it to see, but if the “Blade” option is enabled on a pathway, does it become selectable as a task item (like areas and dead-ends)? ---
**Author:** ![bryan.wheeler](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex007/user_avatar/forum.yarbo.com/bryan.wheeler/32/215_2.png) [@bryan.wheeler](https://forum.yarbo.com/u/bryan.wheeler)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2025, 1:03am UTC](https://forum.yarbo.com/t/manual-pathing-i-e-deadend-without-reverse/871/18 "2025-05-27T01:03:22Z")
No, pathways are unfortunately not selectable. BUT, if you created a pathway that was the only way to get to this area and enabled blades in the pathway, you could work around this (potentially). That is assuming all conditions are perfect for this scenario, which they most likely aren’t. ---
**Author:** ![mwilliams](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex007/user_avatar/forum.yarbo.com/mwilliams/32/1576_2.png) [@mwilliams](https://forum.yarbo.com/u/mwilliams)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2025, 4:04pm UTC](https://forum.yarbo.com/t/manual-pathing-i-e-deadend-without-reverse/871/19 "2025-07-02T16:04:16Z")
> [@steve.billing](#): > > t asking to duplicate a deadend function, I am requesting a manual pathing mode. That is, I draw a path with the yarbo and it repeats that path. There are many circumstances where the Yarbo can physically fit through tight spaces, but the area algorithm is incapable of figuring it out or is ineffective and will destroy the lawn with an excessive number of turns. Give us the ability to ma I’ve separately asked for an dead-end reversing extension (where it can back up further than dead-end) ([Dead-end reverse extension](https://forum.yarbo.com/t/dead-end-reverse-extension/2714)), but an additional option in the dead-end settings for “do not reverse” would be helpful in a ton of situations. This is a great feature suggestion. ---
**Author:** ![Ken](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex007/user_avatar/forum.yarbo.com/ken/32/1001_2.png) [@Ken](https://forum.yarbo.com/u/Ken)\ **Post date:** [July 2, 2025, 8:08pm UTC](https://forum.yarbo.com/t/manual-pathing-i-e-deadend-without-reverse/871/20 "2025-07-02T20:08:11Z")
The “Do Not Reverse” is one of the things the Sidewalk does (snowblower mapped item type), which I have heard will be coming to the mower. It’s basically a Deadend that goes from one mapped item to another without coming back. A Yarbo engineer called it a “Super Pathway.” [Next page](https://forum.yarbo.com/t/manual-pathing-i-e-deadend-without-reverse/871.md?page=2)