We Need to Use This Thread as a Single Customer Voice Back to Yarbo Ownership

Let me preface this: what follows is my own personal rant about the absolute frustration I’ve been living with this machine. But the goal here is simple. I need every single one of you to pile on. We have to get the attention of Yarbo ownership. Right now, it’s painfully obvious they either don’t care, have no earthly idea what they are doing, or have completely given up on supporting their existing customers.

I know some of you won’t respond because you are worried about your forum ranking, you’re a beta tester, or you have some other reason to keep quiet. That’s fine. Sit back, sip your coffee, and watch what you know to be true unfold.

And let me add one more caveat. There is always a vocal handful of people on here with a yard or a driveway the size of a postage stamp. Of course you don’t experience most of these bugs. The machine is almost larger than your entire yard anyway. This thread is meant for those of us actually pushing this thing across 10 acres to do real work and use all of its features, not the guy who has a 10-by-10 patch of grass and a driveway that barely fits a single car.

One final point before I let loose: I have said in umpteen of these posts that I desperately want this company to succeed. I have even offered my own software engineering and leadership experience as a corporate technology executive and CIO for major public companies, entirely free of charge, just to try and help this organization get its act together. Predictably, that has fallen on completely deaf ears. Yarbo Ownership, you could crush the market, what are you doing?!

Let’s take a stroll down memory lane from just a month or two ago. A few firmware updates ago, I started a thread about Yarbo blatantly ignoring no-go zones. Many of you chimed in to share that your Yarbo was also treating boundaries like a mere suggestion. It was blasting through no-go zones like an open border. I don’t know how many of you ended up with genuine property damage like I did, but it was a disaster.

Fast forward to last week. I woke up to find my unit had suffered a right track motor failure. It took multiple phone calls and heated arguments just to finally get a replacement track shipped. I spent an hour yesterday playing mechanic to replace it, and while I guess I should count my lucky stars that the thing is actually moving, it now sounds like a dying banshee performing a “death curl” every time it goes in reverse.

Then, the latest software update dropped.

The Firmware Time Machine

It’s like we just reverted to a year ago. When my Yarbo leaves its docking station and travels down an asphalt driveway, it is genuinely terrified of the pavement. Once it hits the lawn, it starts hallucinating fictitious objects in the middle of a perfectly flat expanse of 4-inch-thick green grass with absolutely nothing within 100 feet.

Oh, and the GPS issues are back with a vengeance. After months of stability, this update has caused the unit to stop dead in its tracks at least a dozen times in 45 minutes, claiming it has no GPS signal. It just sits in the exact same spot, pondering its existence, while the GPS quality wildly fluctuates from 0.1 to 0.9.

The Customer Support Asylum

Every single ticket is met with a brick wall of corporate amnesia. Despite having dozens of open tickets with this organization, I am continuously interrogated for:

  • Shipping addresses

  • Serial numbers

  • Order numbers

  • Log Screens (we covered this before, you delete your logs anyways)

And my personal favorite: “We need videos and pictures.” Pictures of what, exactly? Do they not know what their own product looks like? What profound diagnostic insight will they glean from a photo of a Yarbo sitting perfectly still on a lawn? I have sent this company more photos of my property in the last nine months than I have in my personal family albums.

The Reality Check

Who is actually running this asylum? Is there a single, grounded adult with actual authority at this company addressing our never-ending problems, or is this just an elaborate cash grab? I’d say it can’t be a cash grab because the unit did work fairly well for a few months, if you ignore the software updates.

I can even excuse the occasional random hardware failure, but let’s look at the scorecard. I spent $9,000, and in less than a year I have had to replace:

  • The snowblower head

  • The right track

  • The battery (three or four times)

  • The antennas (halo and gps, three times)

Sure, all of that replacement stuff was technically covered under warranty, and I suppose that’s “nice.” But let’s talk about what that warranty actually costs in human toll. Every single one of those engagements dragged on for weeks. It was a blood-pressure-spiking marathon of non-stop arguments and pure frustration. The lunatics inside the support asylum don’t just fail to help. They treat us with utter contempt at every conceivable turn. I am sick of being told the “higher authority has been informed”. Who the hell is that person?

Am I the only one who thinks there is a massive quality control crisis spanning both their manufacturing and their software development? Can we get a real answer?

Setting all of that aside, it is time we as customers demand answers from someone who holds actual responsibility and understands the culture and expectations of their primary customer base. Whether you are here in the States or one of the three people who bought this in Azerbaijan (no offense to you three, I’m sure you want the same reliability), we deserve better.

I am sick to my stomach of seeing their Ministry of Propaganda post videos of the Yarbo driving around perfectly in front of their office every time I have to go beg for support. Their propaganda engine can go peddle its fiction somewhere else. If this isn’t fixed, maybe we need to organize a group to flood the comments of every single one of their public presentations to warn any conceivable customer about the nightmare they are about to enter into.

Enough is Enough.

We need to rally behind this thread and demand a unified response. In a single forum, we require:

  • Direct Answers to the ongoing systemic failures.

  • A Firm Timeline for fixes.

  • Concrete Actions currently being taken.

  • Clear Steps to permanently resolve the software bugs, hardware fragility, and abysmal customer service loop.

At this point, I’m not sure I can point to a single thing this company does well, other than running Kickstarter campaigns and marketing a fantasy.

I agree this company needs a new direction. Support is not support, most of the time lately it is giving excuses, and or just bull sh*t answers, I hope to god they are mostly AI as I can’t believe they don’t know their own product.

If they would just come on here and be honest, give us the truth to why or how this stuff is happening.

I’m OK to add my 5 cents to all this.
I have something between 0.5-1 hectare (it’s what - about 2 acres in proper freedom units i guess) to mow and the areas are complex - garden, greenhouses, pond, buildings, sheds, standing trees, low hanging trees, leaf canopy, huge rocks in the ground, wife leaving some weed piles from the garden, kid throwing some stuff around… you name it.

I’m mowing with Yarbo 1st season … and it’s huge time-saver and the ultimate message is that - when it works, it works! And I’m happy about it.

But … there is always a but.

  1. Various glitches - like left uncut stripes, crossing NGZ (and ruining the disk when trying to mow a rock or breaking off the antenna while driving under low branch within NGZ or scraping the walls), doing some random stuff at dead-ends … yes - we can raise a ticket, but there is mainly AI agent on the other end of the channel … and not the best one … between polite phrases about escalating the case to senior support, it suggests not always the most relevant things for us to do … and we see it here in forum. There is no problem for me to help troubleshooting some issue and try something, but that’s in case I believe they are working on the issue and actually identified it rather than just trying with different settings 100 times.

  2. Hardware … knocking on the wood, but I have had 1 issue (adjusting the blade thing) which was annoying me for some time. Meanwhile Yarbo arranged the replacement, which I had to beg for status updates if it’s even shipped. And the frustration was growing when the mower stopped working at all, but the grass kept growing.

Another thing I’m wondering is - are these cores SO different? Because how can it be that after an update bunch (but not all) of customers experience map drift, bunch (but not all) of customers experience GPS issues, bunch (but not all) of customers experience no negative impacts (apart from some glitches in sw)

So the bottom line is that currently pain areas is support and testing.
And if it is really that update on each yarbo can cause different issues, then it’s a disaster from testing perspective as beta testers might not have that one type of core which might misbehave after an update.

And support - yes … the AI is doing very bad work there … it’s just writing to write things, but that’s far from solving customer issues.

I’m currently waiting for my 13th replacement core in 2.5 yrs. The latest refurbished core power board isn’t compatible with my trimmer. Why would they send it to me in the first place? About 1/2 that time I’ve spent, wading thru the support swamp and not getting to use my core. Total waste of my warranty time just waiting. Great product, when it works.

Last support message, again, asks me for the same info I supplied in the original ticket. And yes, my address hasn’t changed since I purchased it originally.

Gps issues, NGZ violation issues and damage, currently, battery charging issue (won’t go over 69%, no matter what they tell me to do), app communication issues, blade speed issues, why won’t vision/ultrasonics work right, it’s been long enough. So far it’s taking almost as much work as me doing my yard care manually.

I’m 69, this was supposed to make things easier, as they promised in their ads.

I think that I have commented ad nauseam about this. I tend to manually drive my two Yarbo to and from the areas being worked on due to aberrant paths and cutting through NGZ. I am considering an ETSY frame to add to top of the core to prevent damage to the base of antennas (yes, I have the flexible antennas as well but if the Yarbo still tries to get under a truck in the NGZ I have no choice.) I have had 1 core, 1 LM, 1 SB and 1 battery replaced and in the process of getting the second battery replaced. I have it better than a lot others since I decided early that I need a back-up.

A couple of good points:

  1. Service is getting better. I am not sure if all their resources went to the Yarbo M so Yarbo Y was abandoned, but it appears they are trying to make an effort.
  2. I think it was unfortunate that they invested so early in the Yarbo M without perfecting the Y, but I am optimistic they are learning from this debacle. Unfortunately, it has cost me a lot more time than I care to have invested.

However, as I read the continuous disasters of others, I regret investing in two additional Ms. As I said in another post, this is a beta version which should have been a rental/lease with automatic return/update /exchange in one year or when issues arise. Data could have been reviewed and the flaws corrected with the plan of fully going to market in 2-3 years.

I appreciate how hard the programming for this technology is. Some of these issues with updates could have been avoided if we could go back to an earlier version. When I received this machine, it worked really well. With all the upgrades, there appears that certain “bugs” were introduced as if there was added but poorly integrated patchware. .

I have two words for you. Chinese Owned!

Hey everyone :waving_hand:… I don’t have a large yard or a very complicate layout However… I am absolutely sick at tired of every single firmware update F up… I invested through the kickstarter and have had my unit for 2 years… I was lucky by denying accepting the original shipping and told them I’d wait till the following spring… That led me into the free Core version.

Snowblowing sorta worked but most of the time I needed to rescue the unit at some point… Here in Canada’s Capital they use a ton of road salt so robot never cleaned the end of the driveway…

Mowing originally was a joy … Then they forced the NGZ buffer that ruined the point of having the unit ( I personally feel its to force the trimmer ) …

My absolute intolerance comes from every time they release a firmware… Things go to sht every single time…

Regarding the small lawn thing.. ya it isn’t big so in order to use the robot I also offer doing my neighbours both sides… Every firmware I need to practically wipe and remap everything. 7 zones … Works fine once .. next time drives off the curb ? … Refuses to cut a weed as it gets marked as obstacle… Robot becomes scared of shadows marking them as obstacles…

I had 1 successful all 7 zones last week… Then today the dreaded " new firmware ". 3.19.1 or whatever… Unit started fine … Zone 1 success .. zone 2 stopped in the middle of open space unable to navigate… Then the No Network.. app forgets I own a robot… I was away from home so could do nothing… After 20 minutes the app worked again or no reason as nothing had changed… Restarted zone 2… Robot went out of area and quit… Move and restart… Zone 2 success… Zone 3 sucess… Zone 4… Watching via beta vision… App crashes… Currently robot is unresponsive between yards… No lights… Button on robot starts the coloured lights stops the second you let go of button… App shows no robots… Dc states bluetooth fail… Dc has a green lights and everything has been rebooted… App recovers from 2nd amnesia and remembers my robot.. offline… No network… Networking shows DC wifi and connects … Show rover wifi and is dead … My actual wifi is nowhere to be found in the list…

FIRE whoever you have do firmware!!! Every single firmware breaks things… Get real programmers or outsource or anything … For f sakes

And to ice the cake … Can’t use app to open support ticket because it crashes the second I hit support lol..

Code is written by AI and mostly untested. You can’t mow a rice field. Total dumpster fire in every update and rarely circle back to fix what they broke!

This reckless path of unguided AI implementation needs an immediate course correction. It’s a tool, not a solution! Hire someone with AI Agent integration skills. This is embarrassing!

I just had their AI crap delete one of my tickets!!! They did not even read the title to see it was 2 different cores! Now they just wasted more of my time as I had to re enter all there BS information.

Can you tell I am pissed?

And they asked for a video, video of what? I stated it does not show up in the app, so if they knew their product (AI) or whatever they would know there is nothing to show in a video!!! How many have they fixed at this point you would think they could teach the AI something!!!

These all seem like reasonable points that I agree need to be addressed.

You are right