I know this has been covered, and is supposed to be “in development” but today’s cut highlighted how bad this mapping efficiency is. At the end of a cut it traveled across the freshly striped area twice to cut straggler runs that were literally 4 feet long! This is the definition of stupid!
I hope progress is being made in this area. If there are any PPP that want weigh in, I’m all ears.
I have noticed the same thing. It would be nice if yarbo would mow these areas while it’s there instead of making a longer trip back to cut the little areas it bypassed the first time. I’m sure it would cut down on mow time and improve battery time. I’m not complaining. I am very happy with my yarbo. It is doing a great job. My lawn never looked better.
There was some improvement to this in 3.9.16 but it still has a ways to go. I’ve noticed a time savings of up to 45 mins for some of the new path planning tweaks, but slope slow mode and GPS pauses can quickly steal that time back. Would definitely prefer it just go around those NGZ’s just like I would when I encounter it mowing. Swing right go up the next line straight and then turn left, grab the missed line up to the back of the NGZ, swing left and grab the rest of the next line you started going around it. Or something like that.
Same here. So would it change if it was in one of the other cutting modes?
It’s possible. I’ve heard spiral was having the least amount of issues. Especially with GPS. I experienced this too. Unfortunately, I’m not a fan of the look of that cut so I switched back. But it was odd that I experienced absolutely no GPS pauses using that pattern vs parallel style patterns. It also will speed up your cut in a lot of cases too.
Well I might just give it a try to see. Probably won’t be a fan of the look of that cut too. More of a parallel style patterns person myself. Or even diamond. What was your thoughts about damage to the grass with the spiral cut? I’m planning on changing up the angles every time I mow. Both for better healthier yard, and damage to the same areas getting hit with tracks, and turns. I do like the smart turn better. I think it’s much easier on the yard. Even though, sometimes I’ve seen him not do a smart turn, and only do a 180. 
I recently switch to spiral with all the zero-turn shenanigans from the latest update, and I gotta say it is much better on the lawn. No zero turns, except for the perimeter. Or super tight areas. But much less wear.
It’s much better on the lawn but it always goes the same direction no matter what. So you either need to switch it up periodically or live with it. There’s a few requests to change the angle of the spiral but I’m sure that’s low on the priority list. Yes it will absolutely do zero turns when things are tight or a tendency to go out of bounds. This is by design. I think there are other ways to achieve it without doing this but this is currently how it works. Hopefully they can get there one day soon.
Thank you for sharing your feedback. We understand your concerns, and the optimization of this issue is indeed on our development schedule. We’re actively working on improvements and look forward to bringing updates to you in the future.
I appreciate what you’re saying, but in my case the slope logic resulted in the cut time for one of my larger areas to increasing from 4 hours to 7 hours. I’m seeing increases that far outweigh any savings. The pathing improvements aren’t obvious when I look at the intended routes on the map. It still runs all over the yard to finish small areas.
Yep I can appreciate that larger areas with slope over 5% would be significantly increased cut times. Definitely property and situation dependent. I bet the estimated times do show improvement over previous ones though.
It would be nice if Yarbo would mow areas while it’s there instead of making a longer trip back to cut the little areas it bypassed the first time. I have multiple trips, just for a very small area or strip. I’m sure it would cut down on mow time and improve battery time. I’m trying to get almost 3 acres done. So the amount of time running back and forth from the front to the back. Or if it was easy to make a way to split the areas I’ve already mapped out into zones. So I could say do zone 1,2,3,4,5,6 ect. Then I could checker board, or whatever cutting design. Or if I have an area that grows faster due to more water, or wet holding water longer. On that note. What is the easiest way to zone areas, and when you connect these areas. What needs to happen? I now only have one pathway to my yard.Does anyone have a diagram, or drawing of ideas. At this point I think I might be able to cut some times down cutting. If I can keep him in a area, or zone until he gets finished. He won’t travel so much from front to back? Just want these GPS issues fixed first. It took me forever to do my first map. Trying to go out of the way to do multiple mapped zones, may not be able to happen yet. Going 4,5,6 times around something to put in a NG zone because GPS keeps dropping is a nightmare…
Breaking your yard up into smaller, manageable areas is definitely the way to go. You can then customize the options per area. How you split it up will depend on your particular property and what you’re trying to accomplish.
You mean split and remap?
That’s one of the current mapping challenges. You can “split” it, then decide which piece you want to keep. Then remap the other piece.
Yes, I would like to have different zones. Some areas need more, as grass grows faster, due to more water being in the ares. But if I could focus to cutting one at a time. Less trips all over to get it done. Mapping with the current GPS issues I’m having. 
Hope the Support techs can get things back to a more normal stable condition. Any maps with ideas would be great please share those zones, and how to connect them with great ideas please. Then when they Split, Remap, cutting into zones with current maps. I guess we can revisit. I hate to wipe the map and start over. It took a while with the current conditions. But I think I could shave some time off as far as Travel Efficiency.
I started with the snowblower and one big area for a long, curved driveway. Yarbo wasted a lot of time running back and forth. I found that breaking it into 12 straight or curved areas worked better. I use spiral pattern on curves and parallel on the straights.
So, when I started with the mower, I used multiple areas. My lawn is a very irregular shape with lots of trees and boulders to go around. Have remapped parts 2 or 3 times. I find it best to map rectangular areas with few NGZ where possible and use parallel. Then, map the rest as irregular areas with most of the NGZ and use spiral. The only trick is that Yarbo can get stuck if a NGZ is too close the area boundary. To give it enough room to turn, I had to expand some irregular areas. There is some overlap between areas that gets mowed twice. That adds a little time, but I am almost to the point where it can run without intervention. Add pathways between all adjacent areas. Yarbo will figure out which to use. I mow about 1 acre and have 32 areas. Yarbo will use the snowblower areas and pathways to get to the mower areas.
For sure I should have clarified or used different terminology. It will require some remapping since you can’t split an existing area and save both pieces.
So just a short pathway between the areas? Or one from the charging pad to each area? In the center of each zone, or where you want Yarbo to go in between. That’s why I was asking about a map to see what ideas folks had come up with to keep him from running over an area too many times. I have a Larger property, and if he needs to charge, can he pick other routes, if I chain them together?
Here is my map. You can decide if it is an example or a bad example.
Check this thread.
Docking station is in the lower left hand corner of area 5.
I’ve read suggestions that pathways should go 3 feet into a work area. Overlapped areas cause issues with pathways as well.
Yarbo just needs to be able to figure out how to get from the docking station to the work area using the pathways available.
So a pathway from the docking station to the first work area. Then a pathway from that work area to another work area.
@Ken has some creative mapping skills!
Gotcha. Nice planned map.Like the drawings, helps with the thinking through this making up on time/ efficiency. So pathways should go 3 feet into a work area, like a chain for all together. So another question. If he stays 4" off each border, of each zone. He’s now 8" between zones? Or are you not staying an off the border? I’m doing a 4" overlap. Saw you’re doing 8" just takes longer, but mowing faster. With mower faster, it has to cut down on quality cut. But do you find because he’s moving faster, he gains signal faster in a bad GPS area? So he goes in and out, maybe without losing signal so much, because of recovery on the other side?
