Better option than Work Twice

It still turns/pushes snow but it continues all the way to the perimeter when making passes and cleans up much better. And with the auger running in slope mode it doesn’t leave a big row either.

Does or doesn’t?

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Sidewalks are too unreliable. In my opinion and use case. I can’t get all my sidewalks to do what they should. One, some or all run in reverse.

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I ended up disabling the sidewalks I created to take care of my driveway apron due to multiple issues I couldn’t overcome.

I had been hoping this new firmware would make sidewalks reliable. Sounds like that might not be the case. Hopefully I’ll get the firmware soon so I can do some testing of my own.

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*Doesn’t :sweat_smile:, fixed

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I tested slope mode on the snow plow bank and it still seems to get stuck more often than parallel…I might try a few other techniques, but need to run Yarbo a few times or get the tractor out. Yarbo has had too many issues in the morning an through the day to finish off the whole driveway and now has driven over snow to contend with​:sweat_smile::sweat_smile::sweat_smile: it’s doing better than I thought it would but it still gets stuck occasionally, and it seems to have a 5 minute timeout on how hard it tries to escape so often is very bottomed out and I have to manually go rescue it. It now has stuck goat mode​:grin:

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Sorry, but I strongly disagree with you. As pointed out, turning points often accumulate small piles of snow. Even a second pass does not eliminate this problem; it often actually makes it worse by digging the turning points even deeper.

The proposed perimeter sweep feature is absolutely good—important, if not even essential—for achieving a good end result. This feature works better than the current solution, even if it could not throw snow out of the area, but instead would distribute the remaining snow evenly across the area.

If there is too much snow, the second pass solves that distributed snow problem. In my opinion, these are not mutually exclusive features; on the contrary, the perimeter sweep feature is what makes the currently somewhat pointless second-pass feature genuinely useful.

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I totally agree. I live in NH, where we get fair amount of snow (we are expecting > 20” on Sunday and Monday). What I’ve been observing is that at the end of the cleaning, the perimeter gets snow deposited all over it. With extremely low temperatures, the entire perimeter becomes an ice ring. On top of it, there are snow piles in the perimeter area, which harden and become like rock - where my Yarbo invariably gets stuck and repeatedly runs into track slippage during the subsequent cleaning sessions. I have to manually maneuver my Yarbo to unstuck it each time. Because of this, I have always been sending it to do a perimeter lap at the end of the session and manually end the session. It will be ideal to have the option to do a final perimeter round.

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You are absolutely correct! The track slippage along the perimeter has been my biggest problem so far. A second perimeter sweep at the end of the session will definitely help.

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Thanks for sharing your thoughts and for consistently providing such detailed feedback on this feature. We can see your continued interest in perimeter sweeping, and I’ll be sure to share your input with our product team again.

One of the reasons we do not implement a perimeter pass after finishing the area cleaning is due to the current logic: during a perimeter pass, snow would be thrown back into the work area, potentially re-depositing snow that has already been cleared.

That said, your points regarding snow buildup at turning areas and overall finish quality are well noted, and we truly appreciate you taking the time to explain your perspective so clearly.

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That makes sense but it could just make passes along where the snow throw lines are since the path plan is calculated around those anyways. One loop with auger activation at the lines.

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Have an option to throw the snow not back into where Yarbo just plowed.

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I was thinking throw forward, but that could get sketchy for some users. Throwing back into the area doesn’t necessarily help. What they could consider is for the mower and snowblower and hell, maybe all modules just having a perimeter only option. Hit start on the work plan and when it brings up the preview, you have a button for perimeter execution only or something. No additional code changes needed. It just does what it normally does and stops when the perimeter passes are done.

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That could work for some scenarios…or just make the current plans execute “correctly” like a skilled human operator would run​:grin:

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Dear Yarbo,

I think your logic is flawed. After Yarbo completes cleaning my rectangular area, I go outside and either shovel the perimeter or use my eGO snowblower. So while you say it’s not needed, I and many others are saying that it is needed and that we are doing it manually.

I’d even suggest additional perimeter laps to help clear an area where Yarbo can turn around, just like I’d do if I were doing it with a snowblower manually.

I sometimes get the impression that the engineers designing this tool haven’t ever mowed a lawn or snowblowed a driveway. And right now it didn’t seem like they are listening to those who have

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So you guys, when manually clearing your driveway, clear around the perimeter first? Then clear the rest of the driveway then do another lap around the perimeter? I’ll do multiple strips on the end near the garage so I have room to turn around at the end of the row but otherwise the rest of the drive will be single passes overlapped just enough to not spill over where I already cleaned.

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It seems to me that Yarbo’s initial perimeter clearing is to clear that area so that when Yarbo is doing it’s back and forth rows, it’s less likely to get stuck at the end of a row when it tries to turn around.

But for us as end users, we want to see a nice straight perimeter that has been cleared of snow. Which is why we are asking for a second perimeter clearing once the interior is done.

The challenge is this: Where will Yarbo throw the snow during that final perimeter clearing?? Yarbo would need a second set of snow throwing direction instructions for this last perimeter run to avoid throwing snow back into the interior zone area, or into the street at the apron for example.

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I agree the perimeter pass is for Yarbo to make room for turns. All the more reason to actually increase the options for perimeter laps.

For that final perimeter cleaning pass, it could potentially plow and activate the auger when it’s near the throwing lines along the perimeter.

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Now that the app has the option to control the perimeter direction (counter/clockwise) I think the ability to post clean-up the perimeter at the throw direction would be helpful.

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@Forum_Helper_bot

whats the best way to help with the perimeter passes and zero turns at the edges causing the core to get stuck using S1?