What is the latest scoop on this “pro” mower?
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I think it is safe to say it will have "real blades. Is there going to be an upgrade path for us existing buyers?
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Rumor was it’ll be a simple swap with the disks.
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My Yarbo just arrived today, makes sense they would be announcing a new one. 
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Are you kidding me, they will release a pro model so soon? They always say they have not enough development resources as it is.
The be honest, my Yarbo does not finish any single job without slipping, seeing ghosts, going out of boundary, cutting corners or even tipping over. The rear cameras still don’t work and GPS is cutting out in the middle of the lawn under blue sky. I can get it to mow with a ok’ish result but I have to look into the app every 10-20 minutes to resume its job or drive it out of a pickle manually. Sometimes when I forget to take a look in the app, I come home and find yarbo sitting on the slope at 99% battery and 2% of a job finished because it slipped again, then another full day is lost.
Yarbo can’t get the software update out, but they try to develop new hardware…I don’t get it.
A lot of us were asking for better disks and blades, even for fixed blades (me too) now they bring out a new pro Version… Yarbo really makes it hard for me not to feel screwed over again and again (kickstarter, 2023, 2024, now Pro)
I think it would have looked much better if they would have released it at the beginning of next season, and kept focused on all the problems we have with M1! Fix what you have in the fields first! We are the early adopters, where your customers of tomorrow see the (not) working units, and so far my friends only see me working around bugs and rescuing Yarbo! 
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Looks like power of motors are doubled. Wonder if blade tip speed is increased.
I wonder why there is not more discussion here regarding the pro model.
Comparing to yarbos official Facebook group, there is not much info here.
The graphics show a mulching blade style mower, I like that, the first thing in the animation that falls to attention is the blades spinning round backwards. That’s so unprofessional from yarbos side, one can say come on that’s just PR material, but that are the little things that make me lose trust. I mean they must have a CAD model for the rendering, and I’m sure they used the same model from production for PR material, so I wonder did they design the mower with spinning blades in that direction!
At yarbos office it’s like:
A: Hey man, can you make me a rendering for our new pro model for the announcement, but make sure the blades spin in the wrong direction!
B: Why wrong direction, I have everything ready from the simulations we did?
A: So that people talk about it, we need some buzz for the pro model. Put much effort in it, most people won’t realize it anyway…
So the doubled the wattage of the motors to 300W, we have 150W at the moment. I really like the Lymow style blades, as you can’t tell from the other thread I startet weeks ago.
For a Lymow-style mulching blade (200g, 24cm x 4 cm x 3 mm) spun to 4500 RPM in 4 s:
Spin-up: ~32.3 W (input).
Steady-state (no cutting): ~53.6 W (input).
Total (mowing): ~114–144 W (input), within 150 W rated, 1000 W peak motor capacity for light to moderate grass.
So it could work out with our M1, my question is, are they that heavy anyway and do we need 4500RPM, (I don’t now how fast our disks are spinning and how heavy they are, but fixed blades need to be faster, and they are heavier at the end because of the upbend wings to create the uplifting effect)
The only time I got an overheat problem was when something was stuck around the motor spindle, or when there was clogging due to build up. That reduced drastically, after I removed the guards and bracket.
I don’t really see why we shouldn’t be able to buy the blades to retrofit our mowers.
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Yarbo Marketing is controlling the information release. As with the Trimmer, we only know so much, but there’ll be a lot more discussion when it starts getting into people’s hands.
As with with all of Yarbos other stuff, it always feels like we are the beta testers. Yarbos marketing team and their engineers seem to coexist in two different realities.
I absolutely have no problem with beeing a beta tester, in fact I’d love to take part in testing (like with their new cutting disk design), but not for a product that is marketed as final and ready for use.
Starting a discussion when the units are in people’s hands is too late! That’s when the problems arise and the people start to post their negative experiences on social media. I don’t get why they did not learn from the kickstarter /upgrade debacle…
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Well said mate! I am absolutely 100% with you. My Yarbo is working well, but the software development is crazy slow and it is nonsense. I am getting more and more frustrated. There are so many “easy” things to fix, but they are just sleeping on it. For example Yarbos lights. These are on, but they are not needed in the daylight. Should be an easy few lines code fix.
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A few months back a bunch of us had a candid discussion with Yarbo regarding this topic – IIRC it was a “Live” MS Team meeting or a Discord session with a few Yarbo representatives. We told them they have to be more transparent. People feel they have been sold a bill of goods and are realizing that only after the product arrives. And we’re doing all the testing. Customers don’t hold back. LOL!
Obviously there are business realities, but Yarbo did take at least some of this to heart, and, IMO, has started moving in the right direction:
- They updated their web site to be at least a little more clear about what is a “coming feature” vs. already there. You didn’t have the asterisk disclaimers before. Honesty and clarity beat disappointment every single time.
- Yarbo has started giving regular updates which are archived out here on the Forum – these e-mails are great!
- Yarbo modified the Suggestions/Features area of the Forum to have a summary table of the status of the stuff they’re working on.
- Their CEO had an AMA. It’s available here on the Forum, search for “AMA”.
For development and improvements, yes, it feels like the hardware is having issues, so a lot of that is being dealt with…ugh. There have been some field fixes developed, like the power board issue and the failure to charge (fixed with some bit twiddling). So things continue to get pushed forward. Yep, we don’t have Tow Mode. Why? Yarbo’s up front: It’s still being tested. So they don’t like how it’s working. I’d rather have it right than right now. They still put out a firmware and App update in the meantime to take care of some stuff they’ve already fixed and tested. Thanks!
So that’s my take – Yarbo continues to Support their customers and puts out releases/updates/fixes, within their current resource limitations, of course. Ongoing work is always an encouraging sign.
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@Ken im with Yarbo since it’s start on Kickstarter (Backer #732), it got delayed because the found “last minute” issues, I got delivered the S1 and Core 2023 but never used them because it was after winter season here in Austria. The mower M1 was delayed too. Then the whole update debacle to Core 2024 startet, I had to pay a lot to upgrade, because I already received my Core and S1. Which returned brand new and unused. Those who had not received their 2023 model, due to whatever reason, did get the update for free! To say that we could have stayed with the 2023 model is true, but looking at all the problems it had/has, it was not an feasible option, and yarbo knew that! We got the core 2024 and new snowblower. Again after winter season.
So now I have a brand new, never even attached, S2 unit in my garage, and the mower gives me a headache almost every day.
As I mentioned, I have nothing against testing, in fact I’m loving it, but as you say, as a customer who payed thausands for the unit I’m not willing to put in the effort and the time the developers and engineers should have put in in the first place.
I do think their homepage still makes to many promises, and claiming a feature and relativize it
in the footnotes is, I fact/legally correct, but leading to disappointment.
To be honest I don’t get relevant input from yarbos regular emails, most of them are product shills and ads for yarbo stuff or it’s referral program.
At the moment a can not recommend this product to any of my friends.
I know the AMA, I was there, I asked my questions, got half baked answers and more promises, after the tenth reply how valuable our feedback is to them, I can see why customers start to loose faith. It’s just a standard, canned, reply to be polite. You can tell by the fact that every answer is structured the same. (acknowledge the problem, repeat and summarize the problem, tell the customer that their problem is important to the company, that they work on a fix, or escalate it to the proper level. At the moment every problem is escalated)
I even have Lymow ads on Facebook now, when I roam through the yarbo forums try pop up. And I promise you when/if they can deliver, Yarbo is going to hemorrhage customers. There are a lot of people out there who wanted Yarbo to be the promised heavy duty mower they promised us. For a lot of us, the modular system and the snow blower /leaf blower are just a positive encore and welcome gimmick. In 2021 when I backed on kickstarter there was no other mower doing 35°, (Husqvarna 435AWD did, but no GPS and too little covered area), without laying cable and up to six acres coverage, so I hopped in.
It not only feels like the hardware is making problems, it does have major problems. Lymow, again, can do it without RTK antennas mounted on the outside. And these antennas represent a real design flaw, judging by the posts here and on Facebook. I destroyed 2 by now.
Regarding tow mode, don’t you ever try to use it on a slope! I did and it didn’t end well, because yarbo can’t brake downhill! So it was a runaway… Pulling things uphill, I didn’t try because it is not made for that, I get that. All in all I could not care less for tow mode, others do, I respect that.
I need a working mower as advertised, not a baby to sit.
I don’t get their software development strategies either, developing new stuff for the actual season, seems to be one season to late/behind. Looking forward to fall when they run into problems with the blower…
Have not gotten the new firmware yet, tried a few restarts of the system and reconnecting to my wifi (which I let yarbo forget everytime after an update, because it leads to connection issues, another big construction site). Seems it’s not my turn yet for the update.
There are so many little software things discussed in this forum, some with just some lines of code! I know that the bigger things take time, but the little things and fixes should get pushed out more frequently, maybe do a beta branch on the android play store, for those who like to test.
Talking about limited resources, then why bring out another product after all.
I’m looking forward to all those videos und pictures of the trimmer going backwards into flower beds. (I know that’s a little dark, maybe unfair, but that’s what yarbo does at the moment, and they couldn’t get it fixed by now)
By putting out these product announcements it feels like they are mocking all of us, especially those who just bought a unit and where told there is nothing better. I’m mean, really, read that line for line, that are all things they promised when they announced the M1. Smart engineering leads to sharper results, so they knew our disks and razor blades are not sufficient? Precision is only achieved with blades? Are these the same marvelous engineers behind the current product? Shouldn’t they be fixing things with our model first?
The last two lines are the best! F***ING No, how should I have noticed a difference? You haven’t even released the new mower, how should I have experienced something? This is pure PR shit!
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I was unaware that you’ve been around the block, @Deixi…a few times. Thank you for the additional background and your candor. As someone halfway late to the party with the pre-order for the 2024 model a year ago, I’m looking at here and forward, as that’s all I have experience with. Your perspective sheds a different light – helpful. Thank you.
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And besides that there is mentioned “AI” a lot. Yarbo Core has nothing to do with AI. It can’t even remember obstacles, can’t detect rain and stuff like that, Not to mention patterns and other stuff. I am Kickstarter backer also btw, but I didn’t order snowblower - only mower. I did wait 2.5 extra years.
“I wonder why there is not more discussion here regarding the pro model.” Not a fakebook user, so I wouldn’t know, but I totally agree with Deixi. I’m completely baffled how a strapped small startup phase company can bring out entirely new brand new products when there are serious bugs with the current lineup, that get small software updates to fix. I’m not a kickstarter customer, but I paid what I considered good money for a hill mowing machine. What I did not know is that I was going to need to use manual control to get the hills mowed, that is until I found a dead-end work around.
And even though I put in a ticket for the lack of 35 degree slope mowing, the work around was never suggested, just we are sorry you are experiencing…yada yada…
So yeah Deixi, go get em!
Tim
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i put a poll on the facebook page, we all want to see if we can do a upgrade with a upgrade price and the admins took it down when it hit 87 percent would love a trade in option… im afraid quite a few posts are removed by steve and ken because they only want postive comments…
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You can easily make your poll here and put up a link on Facebook…
Just tap the plus icon and build a poll.
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I just bought my mower module in mid-March and waited as long as I could in hopes of purchasing the latest model for 2025. Had I known there was possibility of a new revision, I would have waited. I wonder how many others are in the same boat. I expect there will have several unhappy customers if there isn’t an upgrade option at a reasonable price for existing mower module owners. I live in a woods and the current design just isn’t cutting it. I’m hopeful the quality of cut is much improved in the new design. Currently, I get a lot of stragglers and it’s just not a clean finish. Looking forward to hearing more about this.
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Are you cutting 2-3 times a week and varying your cut angle by 45-90 degrees? You really can’t notice any variation in grass cuts if you are.
To be honest, my success in even using it (generally) has been severely hindered by routine loss of GPS signal. My yard is surrounded by 60-100’ trees and unless I’m away from the edge of the tree line, the mowing is paused by loss of GPS signal and I have to manually intervene. I aim to mow 2x/week, weather permitting, but maybe need to aim for 3x as you mention. I’m happy to give that a try and see if cut quality improves.
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